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Travis Kalanick & Michael Dell Live from Austin, Texas

All-In · Jason Calacanis, David Friedberg — Travis Kalanick, Michael Dell, Brad Gerstner · March 17, 2026 · Original

Most important take away

Travis Kalanick publicly unveiled his company Adams (formerly City Storage Systems / CloudKitchens) after seven years in stealth, revealing a much broader vision than food delivery infrastructure: the company is building “atoms-based computers” spanning automated food production, autonomous mining (via the Pronto acquisition), and robotic wheelbases, all centered on physical AI and automation of the real world. Meanwhile, Michael Dell and Brad Gerstner detailed the Invest America Act, which creates compounding investment accounts for every child born in America, with Dell personally committing $6.25 billion to fund 25 million children’s accounts.

Chapter Summaries

Travis Kalanick Comes Out of Stealth

Kalanick reveals his company’s new name, Adams, after operating in extreme stealth for seven years with thousands of employees forbidden from naming the company on LinkedIn. He explains the “atoms-based computer” framework: manufacturing (CPU), real estate (storage), and logistics (network) for physical goods, starting with food and expanding to mining and robotics.

The Physical AI Stack and Self-Driving

Discussion of the self-driving landscape, with Kalanick assessing Waymo as the clear leader, Tesla as a high-risk/high-reward bet on vision-only, and Uber pursuing a platform strategy. He discusses how language models and vision-language-action models will transform robotics and autonomous systems, noting that humans still outperform AI in energy efficiency.

Leaving California for Texas

Kalanick shares why he moved from LA to Austin, describing it as heartbreaking but necessary given California’s deteriorating policy environment. He notes dozens of startup CEOs privately wanting to leave but held back by existing infrastructure and employees. Discussion of efforts to reform California through ballot initiatives and a $500 million Sacramento lobbying coalition.

China, Trade, and Global Competition

Kalanick describes China’s manufacturing prowess, particularly in Shenzhen, and urges a competitive but adult approach to US-China relations. He advocates for sensible immigration policy and normalizing business exchanges between the two countries.

Michael Dell on AI Infrastructure and the Data Center Boom

Dell describes the explosive growth of AI infrastructure, with Dell’s AI business growing from $2 billion to a projected $50 billion. He emphasizes that only 10-15% of large companies have figured out AI transformation, that the lowest-cost token will be generated locally on devices, and that AI adoption barriers are cultural and leadership-driven, not technological.

Enterprise AI Transformation

Dell argues that incumbent companies face existential risk if they don’t reimagine themselves for AI. He describes telling his own team they would face an AI-native competitor in every business within five years and needed to become that competitor themselves. Dell’s infrastructure business grew 73% last quarter with guidance of 100% growth.

Open Source AI and the Desktop Renaissance

Discussion of the open source model ecosystem thriving on local hardware, the Invest America Act’s implications, and Dell’s view that AI will amplify human potential rather than simply replace workers, with scientific discovery acceleration being the most exciting prospect.

Invest America Act with Brad Gerstner

Brad Gerstner joins to discuss the Invest America Act, which creates investment accounts for every American child. Michael Dell and his wife Susan committed $6.25 billion ($250 to 25 million children). Every child under 18 can claim an account, and starting January 2027 every newborn automatically receives one. The program aims to move $5 trillion into families’ pockets over 15 years and reconnect Americans to the ownership economy.

Summary

Key Themes:

  • Physical AI is the next frontier. Kalanick frames the opportunity as building “atoms-based computers” that treat manufacturing, real estate, and logistics as core computing resources for the physical world. His company Adams spans food automation, autonomous mining, and robotic platforms across 30 countries.

  • AI infrastructure demand far exceeds supply. Dell reports that AI server revenue is scaling from $2B to $50B in just a few years, driven by hyperscalers, enterprises (4,000+ Dell AI Factories deployed), and sovereign AI initiatives. The lowest-cost inference will happen at the edge and on devices, not in the cloud.

  • Enterprise transformation requires top-down reimagination. Only 10-15% of large companies have meaningfully adopted AI. The barrier is culture and leadership, not technology. Companies must rethink processes from scratch rather than bolt AI onto existing workflows. Speed of innovation is the biggest measurable benefit.

  • Texas is winning the talent and capital migration. Both guests describe Austin as the center of gravity for entrepreneurship, citing pro-growth policies, available land and power for data centers, and a culture of building. California’s policy failures (crime, regulations, infrastructure mismanagement) are accelerating the exodus.

  • Self-driving remains a two-horse race. Waymo leads with proven deployment but faces manufacturing and scale challenges. Tesla’s vision-only approach is high-risk with uncertain timelines. The “ChatGPT moment for vision” has not yet arrived.

Actionable Insights:

  • For founders and operators: Evaluate whether your company could be reimagined as an AI-native business. Dell’s framework of asking “what would a competitor built from scratch today look like?” is a useful forcing function. The 2025 cohort of startups is growing 4x faster than the 2018 cohort because they start with AI-native tools.

  • For investors: Physical AI (autonomous mining, food automation, industrial robotics) represents a massive and under-explored category compared to software AI. Capital requirements are high, creating moats for well-funded players.

  • For parents and families: Every child under 18 in America is eligible to claim an Invest America account. Starting July 4, 2026, account holders will see a Robinhood-like app showing their ownership stake. Parents can add funds via Apple Pay, and the accounts compound tax-free like a 401k from birth. Sign up at investamerica.com.

  • For enterprise leaders: The accelerated depreciation rule allows 100% write-off of AI infrastructure investment in year one, lasting 10 years. This dramatically changes the ROI calculus for building on-premises AI factories versus relying solely on cloud providers.

  • For AI practitioners: Open source models (Gemma, NIMOTron, OpenAI open models) running on local hardware are increasingly viable for enterprise use. Dell qualifies open models on every machine they sell via their Hugging Face portal, making local inference practical and cost-effective.