20Growth: Revolut's Chief Growth Officer on The Growth Playbook Revolut Used to Scale to $2.2BN in Revenue | How Revolut Launch and Grow Products | Why the Best PMs Don't Need A/B Tests & Why CAC is a BS Metric with Antoine Le Nel
Most important take away
Growth is a bidding war won by relentless optimization across every step of the funnel rather than by a single “moonshot” tactic, and the strongest competitive advantage is a superior measurement framework that lets you focus on ROI (and the best cohorts) instead of CAC. Build the analytical framework first, ship fast with short weekly cycles, kill what isn’t working quickly, and treat brand as a product-driven outcome, not a marketing shortcut.
Summary
Antoine Le Nel, Revolut’s Chief Growth and Marketing Officer (previously VP of Growth at King/Candy Crush), lays out a non-ideological, ROI-first growth philosophy with several concrete, actionable insights.
Actionable insights and tech/growth patterns:
- Stop optimizing for CAC; optimize for ROI. Targeting low CAC will systematically pull you into the worst cohorts (e.g., TikTok may be cheap but produce weaker users than Instagram). Le Nel deliberately raised CAC at Revolut while raising ROI even more. Build granular cohort models per channel, market, and product so you know what to pay for the best users.
- Drop A/B testing when you’re early or going for 10x. If you’re a strong PM, you should know the right product. A/B tests slow time-to-market, optimize for small deltas, and aren’t needed when changes are large. Use them later, in the optimization phase, like late-stage King running ~1,000 parallel tests.
- Kill fast. Agility is measured by how quickly you cut, not how many chances you give. Revolut cuts campaigns mid-flight (e.g., a TV campaign at two weeks instead of three months) when the data is clear.
- Build a “growth engine,” not stunts. No single hero campaign drives Revolut; growth comes from compounding optimizations across upper, mid, and lower funnel working in sync, plus a virality layer below. Product builds the virality mechanism; growth operates it.
- Measurement is your moat. King won TV because they cracked TV attribution before competitors. Post-ATT/SKAdNetwork, the iOS performance marketing winners are those who can still measure. Reinvent the measurement framework every couple of years.
- Brand is a product outcome, not a marketing input. King and Revolut both had huge brands before spending on marketing. In early stages, brand awareness is driven by product penetration, not the reverse. Investing in brand early to “fix growth” is a common founder mistake. Mid-funnel brand work (which still drives conversion) becomes valuable later, and Revolut measures it via mechanisms like airport jet-bridge ads paired with vending machines that issue trackable Revolut cards.
- Localization is overrated. The same creative worked globally at King (except Japan). Revolut became #1 in both Romania and Norway with the same strategy. Don’t waste effort over-localizing.
- Operating cadence: weekly business reviews for ~20-25 teams, ~30 minutes each, no slide prep, dashboards only, framed as problem-solving sessions, with closed-loop 1:1 feedback right before/after. Short cycles eliminate prep waste and surface course-corrections fast.
- Hiring: specialists, not generalists. Don’t hire “head of growth” who manages everything OK-ish; hire experts in upper, mid, and lower funnel.
- Day-one advice for a new head of growth: build the analytical framework before spending a dollar.
- Remote works well if you accept the tradeoffs. Meetings get shorter and more efficient (15-min meetings actually work remotely), introverts get a fairer voice via hand-raise, but you lose informal post-mortem moments and must engineer feedback loops.
- Decision-making: say yes or no quickly and move on; some false positives are cheaper than endless re-litigation.
- Primary-bank strategy as “snack” adoption: don’t force account switching; let users start with travel cards, then trading, savings, premium tiers, and migrate over months or years. Track three north-star metrics: user volume, ROI (payback in months), and progression toward primary-user status.
- Bias against beliefs. “I have no belief in anything.” Don’t anchor on F1 wings, billboards, or any tactic ideologically; test, measure, and let data decide which mix wins for your market and maturity.
- Career patterns: depth beats breadth, mastering performance marketing is a durable competitive advantage, learn to work in tight weekly problem-solving loops, and emulate operators (like Revolut’s Nik Storonsky) who “fly the helicopter,” land on problems, dig deep, fix, and take off again.
Chapter Summaries
- King’s lessons: Volume of experiments and high release cadence drove Candy Crush; the weakness was over-indexing on data to the point of ignoring product/UX quality.
- Performance marketing as a moat: It’s still a bidding war; attribution gets harder, so reinvent measurement every couple of years. Mastery is a durable advantage.
- King vs. Revolut: King was deeply A/B-test driven at scale; Revolut largely skips A/B tests because they target 10x changes, prioritize speed-to-market, and trust strong PMs.
- Founder mode at Revolut: Sustained founder intensity from Nik Storonsky drives consistent tempo a decade in; growth is accelerating, not slowing.
- The growth engine: A synchronized full funnel (upper, mid, lower) plus virality, with no single hero tactic. Cut what doesn’t work fast; build the measurement framework first.
- Funnel breakdown: Upper = brand; mid = high-reach activities that also convert (e.g., airport jet bridges with vending-machine card issuance); lower = performance marketing, affiliates, referrals. Hire specialists for each layer.
- New markets: Start the funnel from scratch; ease depends on proximity to existing markets. Localization is overrated outside outliers like Japan.
- CAC is BS: Optimize ROI, not CAC, or you’ll buy the worst cohorts. Build per-channel/per-cohort models and pay up for great users.
- Primary banking strategy: “Snack” adoption funnel; users discover Revolut through travel, trading, savings, then migrate. Track volume, ROI/payback, and progression to primary.
- Operating cadence: ~20-25 weekly business reviews, no prep, dashboard-driven problem-solving, paired with 1:1 feedback loops; fast yes/no decisions with appeal allowed.
- Remote work: Equalizes introverts/extroverts, makes meetings efficient, but requires engineered feedback loops to replace ad-hoc post-mortems.
- US and emerging markets: Mature economies (US, Germany) have surprisingly low fintech penetration; emerging markets (India, Indonesia, Africa) leapfrogged. Negative correlation between economic maturity and fintech penetration.
- Hiring growth: Specialists over generalists; day-one advice is to build the analytical framework before spending.
- Growth philosophy: Like Usain Bolt, the win is millions of 1-2% optimizations, not moonshots; the winner takes all by bidding above everyone across every micro-step.
- Brand: Product-led, not marketing-led, especially early. Causality runs from product penetration to brand awareness in early stages.
- Quickfire: Performance marketing remains key; virality is harder post-iOS changes; biggest founder hiring mistake is generalists; would change platform “privacy” theater that hides attribution; admires Nubank’s depth in Brazil.