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20VC: Five Lessons Scaling Toast to $14BN Market Cap | The Biggest Mistakes Founders Make in Fundraising, Hiring and Selling with Aman Narang, CEO @ Toast

20VC · Harry Stebbings — Aman Narang · August 21, 2024 · Original

Most important take away

Once you see real signal of product-market fit, you must move fast — both to capture the window and to build out the leadership team around you, because management leverage matters as much as hiring more salespeople or engineers. Equally important: culture, values, and the people you hire at the leadership level are the hardest things to change later, so over-invest in hiring early even when it feels slower than closing the next deal.

Summary

Actionable insights and career/tech patterns from Aman Narang, co-founder and CEO of Toast:

Career and founder mindset

  • Pick co-founders who are practical “10x engineers” who can build with velocity. Aman emphasizes that he built Toast with Steve Fredette and Jonathan Grimm specifically because of their building velocity, not because of restaurant passion. Pick people over markets.
  • Speed beats precision in 0-to-1. Ship, iterate, learn from real users instead of over-analyzing requirements up front. 80% of pre-build problem permutations turn out to be irrelevant.
  • Lean into scarcity early — Toast couldn’t afford big marketing, so they parked their booth next to the biggest competitor at trade shows.
  • Don’t raise too much capital. Healthy runway is good, but VCs aren’t stupid: excess capital means excess dilution.
  • Trust your instincts more — being overly deferential can make you move too slow, especially on people decisions, which are usually the hardest.

Hiring and management

  • Aman’s biggest early mistake was undervaluing management. He believed he’d “outwork everybody” and only hire salespeople and engineers — no managers. Leverage comes from hiring people to help you lead, not just to execute.
  • When you can “put the pedal down” (clear signs of repeatable scaling), that’s when you bring in specialists. Before that, generalists win.
  • Hiring rigor: be explicit up-front about what the role is for, write down interview notes (Amazon-style), and go deep — ask hard questions even when uncomfortable. Aman’s favorite question: “What trait do you have that you’re most ashamed of, but that has also contributed to your success?” (Your superpower is often your kryptonite.)
  • Mandatory cross-functional onboarding: every new hire — including district managers — sells Toast for a quarter so they have customer context.
  • Prioritize an interview over a deal or internal meeting — culture is hardest to change after the fact.
  • Culture/values matter and good values are ones you could take the opposite side of. “Lead with humility” is Toast’s value — interpreted as staying close to the front lines and customers.

Fundraising lessons

  • Toast got 8–10 VC nos before their angel (Endeca founder Steve Papa) wrote a $500K check at a ~$3M valuation. Bessemer initially passed because Steve and Aman argued mid-pitch about strategy.
  • Put real time into fundraising — a clean pitch deck and tight narrative matter. “Customer obsession” is not a substitute for being articulate about CAC, LTV, and the model.
  • Make a credible financial model early so you have a target, but then pivot fast to making customers love the product.

Product strategy and expansion

  • Toast wouldn’t exist without three tech trends: Android, cloud, and embedded payments. Choosing Android (not iOS) was driven by ease of building, not strategy — but it created hardware-fragmentation problems (returns within 90 days) until they found ELO devices in China.
  • The first product (QR-code mobile payments) failed. Pivoting to POS — a “non-10x” idea — worked because customers actually engaged. Signal that customers will give you hours of their time is the real PMF indicator.
  • Beating incumbents on “cheaper and better” can be a valid wedge, but cheaper alone isn’t.
  • POS is the central nervous system / ERP of a restaurant — bundle products around it. But integration alone isn’t enough; each adjacent product must be genuinely better (not just bundled commodity).
  • Toast Capital (lending) works because Toast is the payments partner — they have unique data to assess risk, and repayment is built into the payments flow. Hardest part was learning to model 3/6/12-month restaurant survival risk.
  • “Zones to Win” / horizons framework: separate teams for scaling existing products vs. tinkering on new ones. Also a “New Ventures” program for would-be founders inside Toast.
  • Density flywheel: in restaurants, every block has ~5 of them. Selling one drives word-of-mouth referrals to neighbors — micro-flywheels at the neighborhood level shape sales strategy.
  • M&A rule: buy great products with great founders and plug them into Toast’s in-person sales engine. The POS itself stays Toast — never a roll-up of competing POS systems.
  • Be careful when porting a product across segments — a tool that works for enterprise may fail in SMB because the buyer can’t absorb it.

CEO transition and growth pains

  • Aman wasn’t given the CEO role until later. Bringing in Chris Comparato (an outside CEO from Endeca) at ~$2M ARR was their best decision — gave them a sounding board, scaling experience, and space to do their thing.
  • “Slow down to speed up” — measure twice, cut once. Toast scaled into broken onboarding, broken support, and a hardware-return crisis because they prioritized signups over foundations.
  • Everything must stay roughly in sync; one function can be ahead, but not so far ahead that the whole system breaks.

Areas to keep improving

  • Communication at scale: aligning and inspiring a large team is more important than solving problems in the details. Over-communicate the “why.”
  • Authenticity creates followership; people don’t follow polished political pitches.

AI and future

  • Skeptical of hype (was wrong on crypto/metaverse) but sees real applications already in AI — particularly voice AI.
  • Big AI opportunities for restaurants: menu pricing, yield optimization (restaurants don’t optimize yield like airlines/hotels do), voice ordering, and AI personal assistants that abstract away complex UIs.
  • Path to $100B: deepen US restaurant share (currently 13–14%), serve more stakeholders (employees, guests, suppliers), expand into adjacent brick-and-mortar verticals (grocery, c-stores, bottle shops), and go upmarket/international thoughtfully — sequenced over a decade, not a year.

Chapter Summaries

  1. Childhood and grit — Born in India, raised in Nepal, sent to boarding school in 9th grade where he was bullied. Built resilience.
  2. The pivotal “yes” — After 8–10 VC rejections, Endeca founder Steve Papa wrote a $500K angel check at ~$3M valuation. Toast wouldn’t exist without it.
  3. Picking co-founders over markets — Chose to build with Steve Fredette and Jonathan Grimm (practical 10x engineers from Endeca), not because of passion for restaurants.
  4. Speed in 0-to-1 — Move fast, iterate with users, pivot fast. Most pre-build problem analysis is wasted.
  5. The management blind spot — Aman’s biggest mistake: refusing to hire managers, believing he could outwork everyone. Management leverage was undervalued.
  6. From QR codes to POS — Initial QR-code product flopped. Pivot to POS unlocked hours of customer engagement — the real PMF signal.
  7. The Bessemer story — Bessemer passed initially because Steve and Aman argued mid-pitch. Ken came on at the Series A around $100M valuation.
  8. Scaling breaks everything — After raising $30M, Toast scaled into broken onboarding, missing leadership, and hardware that kept coming back within 90 days.
  9. Bringing in Chris Comparato as CEO — Best decision they made. Outside CEO at ~$2M ARR gave them coaching and scaling expertise.
  10. Product expansion and Toast Capital — Building beyond POS into payments, lending ($1B in annualized loans), online ordering. Lending works because Toast already has payments data.
  11. Segment expansion — From SMB to mid-market to enterprise. Different sales/service models per segment, but the in-restaurant operational needs are similar.
  12. Geo and M&A strategy — Four acquisitions; POS stays Toast, but adjacent products from great founders get plugged into Toast’s sales engine.
  13. The density flywheel — Local restaurant density drives word-of-mouth. Sales strategy tuned to neighborhood-level micro-flywheels.
  14. Hiring rigor — Write down interview notes, go deep, ask uncomfortable questions. Every hire sells Toast for a quarter.
  15. Quick-fire round — Biggest near-death moment: pre-pivot QR-code days. Hardest round: none, low-rate-era luck. Most underrated advice: don’t raise too much capital.
  16. AI and the future — Voice AI, yield optimization for restaurants, AI assistants. Path to $100B is deepening restaurant share, serving more stakeholders, expanding into adjacent brick-and-mortar verticals.