20VC: Mark Suster on The Biggest Fundraising Lessons for VCs, Why the Correction in Venture is Still to Come, Why Private Equity Will Replace IPOs and M&A as the Exit Path & The Woke Left and a Trump Administration; What Happens?
Most important take away
The 2021 overvaluation was far worse than the 1998-2000 dot-com bubble, and the venture correction is only two years into what will likely be a seven-year unwind. Entry price discipline matters enormously because exits will increasingly come from private equity (not IPOs or M&A), and PE firms only pay rational prices. Founders and investors who maintain valuation discipline, deploy patiently, and sell into euphoria (rather than buying into it) will outperform.
Summary
Actionable insights and career/tech patterns from Mark Suster:
Fundraising lessons for VCs (and founders):
- “Lemons ripen early” — the first 5-10 nos come fast; the yeses take months. Persistence over months/years is the real moat. Some of Suster’s best LPs said no to two funds before committing.
- “Lines, not dots” — investors and LPs form opinions over multiple touchpoints. Track record through tough decisions (e.g., selling in 2021, not chasing markups) is part of that line.
- Put the smallest credible number on the front of your pitch deck (e.g., raise $50-60M targeting $100M) and aim to be over-subscribed. Closing 20 on a stated 100 looks like failure; closing 20 on a stated 50 doesn’t.
- Raise the minimum you can to do a first close and stay in business — you have ~12 months to add more. Surviving beats optics.
- Offer the first anchor LP economic incentives (extra carry, fee discount) to break the “no one wants to go first” stalemate.
- Prefer institutional capital over friends and family because institutions re-up across funds 2, 3, 4.
- Brand-name LPs (Harvard, MIT, Princeton) do create herding — all LPs (and VCs and retail) are sheep.
- As a managing partner, your job is to shield your team from fundraising stress and compartmentalize problems so others can operate.
Market timing and price discipline:
- People buy most heavily at the top and sell at the bottom — do the opposite. Suster sold $1.2B of positions in 2018-2021 (including $600M in 2021 alone) when public software was trading at 24.6x NTM revenue vs. a 10-year average of 9.6x and 20-year of 6.2x. He deployed ~$50M into secondaries at deep discounts in 2023.
- When trimming a winner during a run-up, sell 33-40% max — leave the long position to compound.
- Entry price matters. Upfront’s median entry pre-money is $11-12M while the 2021 market paid $25-80M+ pre for pre-revenue companies.
- Of ~1,260 unicorns minted in 2021-22, 60% were marked by four firms (SoftBank, Tiger, Coatue, Insight). Suster estimates ~1,000 will never exit at $1B+. Public software/internet $1B+ companies in the US: only 343 total.
- 1998-2000 top-quartile VC went 1x to 3.3x in two years, then fell to 1.4x DPI over five years (no dead cat bounce). 2021 was worse, so expect ~5 more years of unwinding.
- Many funds are still not taking the markdowns they need to take (e.g., Lacework valued at $8.5B reportedly sold for $300M).
Exits will shift to private equity:
- IPO market is largely shut and even open IPOs lack float for VCs to exit.
- Strategic M&A is blocked by regulators (CMA blocked Adobe/Figma) and the biggest acquirers can’t acquire.
- Private equity will buy companies and secondaries at rational prices — which is exactly why entry price discipline matters now.
- Easier exits at $250M-$1B than at multi-billion levels because the buyer universe is broader.
Tech patterns and thesis:
- AI/generative AI is overpriced — 44% premium at seed, ~200% premium at Series B vs. comparable enterprise SaaS. To make money you must believe what others don’t and be right; the arbitrage in generative AI is already gone.
- Space is the new AWS moment. SpaceX’s reusable Falcon 9 has cut launch costs >90%/kg, mirroring how AWS cut startup infra from $5M to $500K around 2009 and triggered the seed-fund Cambrian explosion. 100+ spinouts from SpaceX, $10B+ raised, mostly in LA. ~30% of SpaceX spinouts go into space; others into energy, clean tech, infrastructure.
- Hardware + software is undervalued — Apple, SpaceX, Tesla, Ring, Nanit. Hardware enables differentiated services revenue.
- Healthcare, derided in 2014-16, is now one of Upfront’s best-returning sectors.
- Beware software investors moving into hard tech, biotech, clean tech, energy — different games, different skills. Specialist swim lanes beat generalist sprawl.
Portfolio construction:
- Upfront deploys 40-42% of fund into initial checks; 58-60% reserved for follow-ons across subsequent rounds.
- Median first check: $3.2-3.5M for 18-21% ownership. Same since 2009.
- Three follow-on buckets: clearly failing (minimize), clearly winning (back the truck), and the messy middle that just takes longer. Six “longer to grow” companies have returned $1.4B for Upfront — patient capital wins because those companies are forced into capital efficiency.
- Reserves decision = (1) still believe in market? (2) still believe in team? (3) still believe in valuation? Will pass on follow-ons even in winners if the price is wrong (one company went 15→90→500, declined the 500, now headed to billions).
Founders and judgment:
- ~70% founder driven, 30% market — great founders pivot toward better opportunities.
- Worst kind of founder mismatch: short-termism — wanting a quick exit when you backed them for a 12-15 year journey.
- Biggest personal mistake: piling into a perceived winner driven by ego (“I won’t let a new investor own more than me”). One zero on a $350M offer the founder rejected. Lesson: separate love of founder/market from love of valuation.
Career advice for new investors:
- Be patient. Looking at 7 deals you’ll like 3; looking at 700 you’ll still like ~7-10 — but the chances those first 3 are the right 3 is near zero. Volume of pattern-matching matters.
- Operator-turned-investor isn’t the same as founder-turned-investor. Running a division at a big company doesn’t teach zero-to-one.
- Make bets that others don’t believe in — and be right. Suster invested in Ring (passed by all of Shark Tank) and Nanit.
- The good and bad distribution among founders mirrors the general population — expect some bad actors, including outright fraud (which is already increasing post-2021 and will increase more).
- The job of a CEO/managing partner is to compartmentalize stress and shield the team — those who can’t, can’t lead through downturns.
Chapter Summaries
- Intro & Passover acknowledgment: Suster acknowledges Passover, the 130 hostages in Gaza, and the Jewish historical context before pivoting to venture.
- Path into venture: Sold second company to Salesforce in 2007, joined Upfront as a GP — only on the condition he’d write checks. Founder-turned-investor vs. operator-turned-investor distinction.
- The dark side of venture: Losing money is hard; worse is dealing with bad-actor founders, threats, lawsuits, and even embezzlement that gets settled quietly. Expect more frauds to surface from the 2021 vintage.
- Leadership in a downturn: A managing partner’s job is to compartmentalize and shield the team. Persistence and process get you through.
- Fundraising lessons — “lemons ripen early” and “lines, not dots”: Apply to both founders and VCs raising from LPs. Story of seven visits to Jamie at Morgan Stanley before securing the anchor $22.5M that unlocked a $195M fund.
- First close strategy: Raise minimum to close and stay in business; put smallest credible number on the deck; offer first-money incentives; prefer institutional LPs.
- LP behavior & herding: All investors are sheep. Markets peak when everyone is buying. Suster sold $1.2B in 2018-21 and bought secondaries in 2023.
- The unfinished correction: 2021 was worse than 1998-2000. 1,260 unicorns, ~1,000 won’t exit at $1B+. Five more years of unwinding likely. Many funds still under-marking.
- Where exits will come from: IPOs shut/illiquid, M&A blocked, private equity will be the dominant exit path — paying rational prices for companies and secondaries.
- AI is overpriced, space is the new AWS: 44% seed and 200% Series B premiums in generative AI. SpaceX’s reusable rockets are doing for hard tech what AWS did for software in 2009.
- Specialists over generalists: Upfront runs as a “multi-thematic” fund with dedicated partner swim lanes (space/defense, healthcare, etc.). Beware software investors crossing into hard tech.
- Reserves and follow-on discipline: 40/58 split. Three buckets. Will pass on follow-ons when valuation is wrong even for great teams in great markets.
- Founders, mistakes, and ego: 70% founder driven. Worst mistake was piling money into a perceived winner out of ego — became a zero after a rejected $350M offer.
- Career advice for new VCs: Look at 700 deals, not 7. Bet on what others don’t believe (Ring, Nanit). Volume builds pattern matching.
- Closing on politics and antisemitism: Concerns about Trump and democracy; broader concerns about rising antisemitism on both extreme right and extreme left; historical context on Israel, Zionism, and current campus protests.